IP backhaul for occasional mobile sat

[Baylink]

In my new job, one of the tasks I'm supposed to eventually get handed (assuming I don't get canned for talking about it early :-) is to refurbish a 2006 vintage Frontline DSNG-ST Combo truck for occasional use on the road (by which I mean 2-4 hours on-air, every week or two.

It has a 1.2m Ku-band uplink, and given the amount of communications we'll need to do between it and our studio (video, production audio, 2-way PL, IFB, multiple phone lines, and VPN LAN, I'm strongly considering using dedicated IP-to-Internet service, from someone like these people:

http://www.mobilsat.com/Internet-satell ... ice-plans/

who can give me 2MB/s down and 1MB/s up for $288/hr, on a dedicated Ku band transponder, assuming I have a big enough dish and a large enough amp. I have a suitably sized fiber coming into the studio, so I won't need to worry about downlinking.

This leads me to several questions, which I thought the denizens here might have opinions on:

1) How is that, as occasional KU pricing goes?

2) Does anyone have a suggestion for a broadcast quality 4:3 NTSC MPEG2 or MPEG4 hardware codec pair for the video link?

3) Has anyone actually used that sort of service, or that particular company, and what do they think of it?

4) Does anyone know what specific transponders they use, or what sort of baseband/70MHz box I'd need to talk to them?

5) Is this idea brilliant, nutsabago, or both? :-)

I may be 50-200 miles from my studio, and cannot guarantee local connectivity on-site, so any solution will almost have to involve 2-way comms over the bird.

[Baylink]

No static at all, huh? :-)

Some more research the other night turned up LBiSat, who operate their own teleport in Utah (I think it is), and will sell me 3Mb/s of iDirect connectivity for $179/hr or 4.5Mb/s for $250, which is pretty decent pricing, I think... though I still don't know what normal Ku-band occasional video time is going for...

[K9EZ]

Do you have to use Sat? Can you internet it and save yourself a ton of money and satellite latency? I have a solution for you, but I am biased as I work for the company, but there are major networks using it.

[rockmanac]

Do you have to use Sat? Can you internet it and save yourself a ton of money and satellite latency? I have a solution for you, but I am biased as I work for the company, but there are major networks using it.

Actually, interesting of Kent to ask that question. We just tested a LiveU system and it kinda rocks. No SNG or ENG needed. Now let's see if TPTB pony up the money for one.

[Baylink]

But, alas, as the original posting notes, I may be 50-200 miles, or more, from any terrestrial IP coverage of any type.

I *am*, however, interested (as I note in another post) in Video/Audio over IP en/decs, and anything you have to say about those, I'd love to hear. :-)

And, as also noted, I *have* the truck, dish, and BUC, along with whatever else it was already equipped with (DVB-S encoder, I think).

[eadler]

I *am*, however, interested (as I note in another post) in Video/Audio over IP en/decs, and anything you have to say about those, I'd love to hear.

I'd suggest starting another thread for this and posting your requirements for such a system. I've used systems on/near both ends of the price spectrum (both audio-only and audio+video) and each has their uses -- knowing your specific use case and requirements would help anyone suggest things to you.

[Baylink]

That would be this thread over here? :-)

[K9EZ]

Do you have to use Sat? Can you internet it and save yourself a ton of money and satellite latency? I have a solution for you, but I am biased as I work for the company, but there are major networks using it.

Actually, interesting of Kent to ask that question. We just tested a LiveU system and it kinda rocks. No SNG or ENG needed. Now let's see if TPTB pony up the money for one.

Wellllll.... (if this is inappropriate, please let me know....)

We have created a system where you can use the internet for video feeds. LiveU has a delay of about 7 -15 seconds. We have a delay of 200 MILLI seconds. I am sitting in a meeting room at a major US network, and we are demonstrating sending 30fps video over 4G. We also have the ability to do DVE in the cloud. Blah blah blah.

We also have a Net Return mini box that will save about 7 seconds off of a satellite net return.

http://www.vidyocast.com

Shameless plug now ended.........

[Baylink]

Then, perhaps, you can tell me...

Is "contribution" merely an impenetrably fancy name for "backhaul"?

[manchesterjim]

@ Baylink.."Contribution" usually refers to the "primary" feed...backhaul is the return .....like IFB, data, etc.

But then, its all about who is using the words.....so this is just how they've been used in my world!

[Baylink]

Hmm. For me, 'backhaul' has always been "everything that brings signals *into* the station, so we can send a program out".

What did they *used* to call such encoder boxen (like the DVB-S I'll be replacing in my truck), and what distinction were they trying to get around, I wonder...

[NECRAT]

A satellite backhaul is a signal that provides the signal to a provider/transmitter.

We used to receive the WAPA backhaul into DirectTV for our feed of Wapa America back when we had it.

Thats how I remember it...