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Why Is It?......

Postby Chris from Milwaukee » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:27 pm

Okay, TV guys, not a technical question but more or less a matter of symantics.

With all newscasts, why does a news cast always go in this order?:

1) News stories
2) The Weather
3) Sports

Every newscast that I have ever seen always follows that order. Why do they do that??
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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby w9wi » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:14 pm

Chris from Milwaukee wrote:Okay, TV guys, not a technical question but more or less a matter of symantics.

With all newscasts, why does a news cast always go in this order?:

1) News stories
2) The Weather
3) Sports

Every newscast that I have ever seen always follows that order. Why do they do that??


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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby rockmanac » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:17 am

Chris from Milwaukee wrote:Okay, TV guys, not a technical question but more or less a matter of symantics.

With all newscasts, why does a news cast always go in this order?:

1) News stories
2) The Weather
3) Sports

Every newscast that I have ever seen always follows that order. Why do they do that??


Ratings! It's all about the ratings. Milwaukee is a metered market. Watch any of the stations, with the exception of CBS 58, and you'll notice that weather almost ALWAYS hits after xx:18. This is because that once you go over :20, you've won the half-hour. And since people watch mostly for the weather, no sense in putting it up where people will watch and then turn off, and therefore cost you a ratings point.

Get it?

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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby w4cl » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:25 am

Some of us remember when it was News, Sports and Weather but that was too many eons ago.
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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby rockmanac » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:25 pm

w4cl wrote:Some of us remember when it was News, Sports and Weather but that was too many eons ago.


Whoa.. Now that's just weird... It's always been News-Weather-Sports for me!

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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby Chris from Milwaukee » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:54 pm

Ratings... of course.
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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby NECRAT » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:34 pm

Around here its this...

News. Weather. News News. Weather Weather News Weather Sports Weather.
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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby eadler » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:21 am

Back home (NY DMA) it was always Weather-tease, News, Sports-tease, News, Weather, Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason (sometimes simultaneous with Weather) News Sports Weather News News Sports News Weather News News Weather Sports News News Update Weather News Update Weather different-Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason News Weather News News top-of-hour repeat. (or something to that effect)
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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby rockmanac » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:43 am

eadler wrote:Back home (NY DMA) it was always Weather-tease, News, Sports-tease, News, Weather, Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason (sometimes simultaneous with Weather) News Sports Weather News News Sports News Weather News News Weather Sports News News Update Weather News Update Weather different-Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason News Weather News News top-of-hour repeat. (or something to that effect)


That's called a morning show! Just replace "Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason" with skycam for us.

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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby NECRAT » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:37 pm

eadler wrote:Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason


Oh there is a reason for it. Managment says, "We paid how much for that helicopter??? I want video from it in every newscast".
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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby rockmanac » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:16 pm

NECRAT wrote:Oh there is a reason for it. Managment says, "We paid how much for that helicopter??? I want video from it in every newscast".


Hmm.. Kind of like "How much did that Doppler cost? I don't care if it's not raining/snowing, you're showing that thing anyway!!"

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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby w9wi » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:11 pm

NECRAT wrote:
eadler wrote:Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason


Oh there is a reason for it. Managment says, "We paid how much for that helicopter??? I want video from it in every newscast".


We solved that problem by leasing the helicopter instead of buying it.

GM uses the same words "We paid how much for that helicopter???" but his meaning is drastically different :wink:
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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby eadler » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:24 pm

rockmanac wrote:
NECRAT wrote:Oh there is a reason for it. Managment says, "We paid how much for that helicopter??? I want video from it in every newscast".


Hmm.. Kind of like "How much did that Doppler cost? I don't care if it's not raining/snowing, you're showing that thing anyway!!"

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I still find it completely hilarious that they show standard radar images from their "Doppler [very large number ending in a large number of 0s here]" and rarely (if ever) a doppler rendering.
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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby rockmanac » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:22 am

eadler wrote:I still find it completely hilarious that they show standard radar images from their "Doppler [very large number ending in a large number of 0s here]" and rarely (if ever) a doppler rendering.


Wasn't there a station that had the Super-cali-fragilistic-expi-ala-Doppler? Or something like that? I remember a video floating around YouTube. Ours has just been "Super Doppler", though, that might change with the elimination of 27 Weather Central, and the move to 27 Storm Track.

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Re: Why Is It?......

Postby Chris from Milwaukee » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:19 am

eadler wrote:Back home (NY DMA) it was always Weather-tease, News, Sports-tease, News, Weather, Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason (sometimes simultaneous with Weather) News Sports Weather News News Sports News Weather News News Weather Sports News News Update Weather News Update Weather different-Helicopter-shot-for-no-reason News Weather News News top-of-hour repeat. (or something to that effect)


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